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Teen girl, boy die in wreck with train
By SILVIO J. PANTA, Staff Writer

Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:12 PM PST

GLAMIS — A teenage Norco girl and a 9-year-old boy were killed Saturday when a Union Pacific train slammed into their vehicle at eastbound Highway 78 in the Glamis Sand Dunes area, the California Highway Patrol reported Sunday.

The unnamed 15-year-old girl died of blunt force trauma at the scene of the 3:25 p.m. crash, the CHP said in a press release. The boy, of Glendora, also died of his injuries after being taken to the Children’s Hospital in San Diego.

A third passenger, who was 15-years-old and of Glendora, suffered a ruptured spleen and traumatic injuries but survived the collision, the CHP said.

The teen was driving a 2006 Yamaha vehicle on eastbound Highway 78 and stopped west of the railroad tracks not far from the Glamis store as the crossing arms were down.

At the moment the back end of a slow moving train that was heading north had cleared, the teen drove around the arms, the CHP said.

But as the driver attempted to cross over the train tracks, a second train that was moving south struck the left side of the Yamaha. The impact pushed the Yamaha in a southerly direction until the train stopped.

It was not immediately known why the teenaged girl was allowed to drive the vehicle without adult supervision. The CHP did not identify the victims at press time.

>> Staff writer Silvio J. Panta can be reached at 337-3442 or at spanta@ivpressonline.com

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Michele wrote on Feb 11, 2008 6:49 PM:

" As a CHP officer, and most importantly a friend and former co-worker of both fathers of all children involved. Let me say this, as a parent myself, no one EVER wakes up in the morning and thinks that their children will ever be involved in a fatality of any sort....... So "Pony this up LADY", I hope you or any of us never have to bury your children in your lifetime. However, any of you that "think" you are WATCHING your kids as well as you could,let me shed some light on the fact that sometimes life takes a terrible turn and determines things without your HOLIER THAN THOU OMNIPRESENTS... YOU'VE OBVIOUSLY NEVER SEEN THE KINDS OF THINGS WE'VE SEEN ON THE JOB, AND I THANK THE GOOD LORD YOU NEVER WILL. I am so very sure these parents' grief is far more self punishable (not that any lucid parent would ever wish upon them) than we could ever comprehend... Please have some class and refrain from your desgusting comments. Kiss and hold your children VERY often, and thank GOD for every waking moment with them. Unfortunately, life is no guarantee........................... "

d.j.miller wrote on Feb 9, 2008 11:13 PM:

" my family and i were in downtown brawley when the chp officers were responding. when the 3rd went by, a chill went down my spine. my good friend, a brawley native,said judging from the speed of the officers, "has to be kids hurt". im the father of 3 children 3,8,10, you cant suffocate them. Parents: love your children,hug em kiss em. you never know when its your time. The MILLER family's hearts go out to you and sorry for your loss. "

NHS Peer Counselor wrote on Jan 14, 2008 4:00 PM:

" it will be almost 2 months since sami left..even though i did not meet her, i did help her friends at school through the grieveing process at norco high school. THE PEER COUNSELORS ARE HERE FOR YOU!!!! the the family and friends that are reading every comment that people are leaving...remember that it's NOT ANY ONE'S FAULT. it was just a tragic accident. DON'T THINK ABOUT the WHAT IF'S ...because you will only bring more pain. I pray for you and hopefully that one day god can give you the strenghth to move on. MY CONDOLENSES goes out to YOUR AND YOUR FAMILY. REMEMBER BRING IN ALL OF THE POSTIVE and IGNORE THE NEGATIVE. LIFE WILL BE MUCH BRIGHTER!!! "

Mark E. wrote on Jan 10, 2008 1:02 AM:

" Although I have been out of touch with him the last few years I grew up with the Uncle of the girl driving. And know her father as well. I talked to a mutual friend today and he told me what had happened. My heart goes out to my friends family as well as her mothers family. I wish these mere words could do more to comfort you in your time of sorrow and grief. I'am truly sorry for your loss. "

Jburton wrote on Dec 6, 2007 8:41 AM:

" It's easy for people to place blame, when in fact this is simply a tragic accident PERIOD!!!! It could happen to any of us at any given time. It was 3 kids out having a good time and unfortunantly did not see the train coming. CASE CLOSED!!!! The famlies have suffered enough without having to listen to ignorant people with negative comments. They have suffered the ultimate loss. "

Burner wrote on Nov 27, 2007 3:28 PM:

" We too go to Glamis every year - because its a relatively easy place to let your guard down. But there are crazies there, and the kids get their safety briefing almost every time we go on a ride. They stay single file, etc. no bumper cars, no screwing around....only a few are old enough to have a driver's license...well guess what, the Dad who gives the safety briefings? He was hit in his dune buggy Parking! by a speeding quad - we could have easily been walking where he was parking - guy on the quad lost too - he broke his leg after launching off the buggy. You can't prevent every bad thing that happens, you try your best and then pray... We are praying for these parents and their loss - there is no blame here - just a tragic accident. "

CB wrote on Nov 27, 2007 1:21 PM:

" 1. Most of you have your supposed facts wrong before condeming the innocent do some research. 2. Please remember these are children all of whom are no longer with us and whos families are heart broken, children who are loved, cherished and missed a heartache no parent should ever know. Think of the worst pain you have ever felt in your life and it will never compare to the loss of your child. 3. Let he who is with out sin cast the first stone, not one of us is so pure that we have the right to judge. 4. My prayers are with sami, amanda and marcus, their family and friends. We will miss you. "

Navarettesr wrote on Nov 27, 2007 11:55 AM:

" These are my cousins and they were young and free but made a terrible mistake so please it's hard enough to deal with this and then have to read such on caring words. They were truely loved by their parents and I can't imagine what their going thru. Be careful of what you say! "

Larrry Kerns wrote on Nov 27, 2007 1:19 AM:

" Rest in Peace beautiful Girl,You are loved by many and will always be remembered. Till i see you again Sami, Love Grandpa. "

Larrry Kerns wrote on Nov 27, 2007 1:17 AM:

" Rest in Peace beautiful Girl,You are loved by many and will always be remembered. Till i see you again,, Love Grandpa. "

justjill68 wrote on Nov 21, 2007 10:41 PM:

" just a suggestion... everyone, go home and hug your kids or loved ones, be thankful that you still can, that they are there for you to tell them you love them. My thoughts and prayers to the family and friends who are mourning right now. I can't imagine what your are going through and may God give you the ability to go on. "

chungiz wrote on Nov 21, 2007 2:04 PM:

" It is Truly an Immense Shame that people are using the opportunity of giving "Comments" for the purpose of getting back to one another, or fighting with each other through ivpress comments. Please people, be Adults and provide with reasonably mature feedback, oppinions, and ideas. How can we expect Respect when one is not showing it to general readers of imperial valley press. If you would like to provide with negative comments or anything of such nature...Then please be discrete and do it through e-mail, or private messaging. We readers do not come to check out ivpress to read about people arguing through these comments. Thank You. "

mardia wrote on Nov 21, 2007 1:37 PM:

" Wow!!! The critics will ALWAYS have something NEGATIVE to say. To the critics, "what a bunch of heartless fools! Quit looking to lay blame, it's irrelevant here!" Tragedy can strike any one of us at any given moment. I experienced the death of my 3 year-old sister years ago. I heard most of the negative comments people stated regarding my mother, who was at fault, etc. Those "mean-spirited" statements have a lasting effect on the deceased's family and friends. To help me cope with these people my mother always reminded me, "when you point a finger, there are three pointing right back at you." Critics, try it: your middle, ring and pinkie will be pointing at YOU!!! To Sami's family and friends, who no doubt are reading these posts: Our family and friends learned a BIG lesson during the tragic loss of my sister: FAITH, PRAYER, FAMILY and FRIENDS is what matters most during this time. May God bless the chidren who have passed, their family and friends...KEEP THEIR MEMORY ALIVE!!! "

Tinjack wrote on Nov 21, 2007 9:37 AM:

" Just pray for the families, they are all going through enough right now. RIP little dune angels. "

medic50 wrote on Nov 21, 2007 8:26 AM:

" PART 2 We must remember that for the family of the deceased, they have already been accused, tried and handed down a sentence of death. The death of a child has to be extremely difficult, I can tell you that I have heard the cry of a mother after she has been told that her son died way too many times and it always has made me clench my teeth even 15 years into my career. Fault or no Fault the children have past and the parents will assign guilt to themselves regardless of what any of you may think. This is my personal opinion and is based solely on years of experience of dealing with the severely sick and injured. May the two children who died rest in peace, and may god give strength to the child who survived to carry-on. "

medic50 wrote on Nov 21, 2007 8:24 AM:

" First of all I find it amazing that amlyam can type a message from the past dated Dec. 31 1969!! Now to the real reason I am here. As a Paramedic I have seen many different ways of death and not one seems to be better than the other. This young inexperienced girl was out in the dunes having fun and a great time and probably not thinking about the “what if’s” of life. I don’t think that she was malicious in her intent to cross the RRXING prior to RRXING arms lifting. Therefore we should leave the deceased alone. For the most part when we assign fault we need to also assign intent, if the parents went to Glamis with the intent of one of their children dying then yes they are guilty. Otherwise leave them alone, write some kind words, pray for the dead, their families and move on. As I have move through my career in public safety I see that we have become a society that is hung up on wanting to assign guilt for every tragic event we face. Obviously with murders, drunk drivers, etc. yes there has to be some fault placed and prosecution. "

rivercheetah wrote on Nov 21, 2007 8:03 AM:

" To Amlyam, your a idiot,its so called always the trains fault? Well what are those arms with the pretty flashing light say, DANGER, look it up in the driving manual, also what about the horn that was blown by the train, I am truly sorry for the families loss. "

cheripies wrote on Nov 20, 2007 11:09 PM:

" truly tragic.as a parent i tell my daughter to be careful when she's driving,and I have to trust that she is,but like most teens she will do what she darn well pleases,so don't be so quick to blame the parents. "

ksmithre wrote on Nov 20, 2007 9:22 PM:

" I am here posting, because my nephew and his whole school are reading this. They all know Sami!! They not only lost a friend, but that have people on here bashing her parents. I am their voice, YOU pointing your fingers are making their hearts hurt. They want to know, how someone who has never met their friend, her parents can be so cruel. **I appreciate people who are civil, whether they mean it or not. I think: Be civil. Do not cherish your opinion over my feelings. There's a vanity to candor that isn't really worth it. Be kind. Richard Greenberg, "

ksmithre wrote on Nov 20, 2007 9:13 PM:

" Lets say this accident happend down the sand.. Where you can CROSS over the track, and there is not the arms. What would you argue then? "

ksmithre wrote on Nov 20, 2007 9:10 PM:

" To JSYI; let me take a look inside your life. Let me see all the things that you have done. Have you EVER gone over the speed limit, have you ever made an illegal U-turn, have you ever j-walked. All of these actions are BREAKING THE LAW, and all of these actions can cause someone to die at YOUR HANDS.. Ever get a ticket in your life, let me call up your parents and ask them how you were as a child. Do you have children? How old are they? I am sure you WONT answer these questions, I might be wasting my time writing this, but if you want to debate this; lets go! I will open your eyes, and bring you from the dark… "

ksmithre wrote on Nov 20, 2007 8:59 PM:

" First let me say that I am 29 years old, I have been going to Glamis for many years. I can honestly say that I see myself doing the SAME thing.. I don’t believe this has anything to do with experience. She was not HODRODDING, she was not driving crazy, she simply felt SECURE enough to go around the arms, if there was not another train this would have typically been NO BIG DEAL. This being Glamis and her being in a veichale that could run down the sand approx 100 ft and cross over were railroad ARMS are not present… It’s the false sense of security KNOWING the train you were waiting for had crossed.. You are in the DUNES open space, maybe a little to relaxed, but a sad tragic mistake.. How DARE anyone sit behind their computers and post about being a parent. Let me ask you this if she was on a quad meant for a 14 year old and did the same thing, what would you have said then.. Where was the adult supervisor???? Why do people ALWAYS want someone to blame, do you believe in the lord? If you answer yes, the he was the parent and he decided to call his child home. If you don’t, then things happen, and we can not always look to blame someone, the PARENTS are not to blame. "

knowland68 wrote on Nov 20, 2007 6:10 PM:

" I just want to say that I know this family very well, they are far from being irresponsible parents. My daughter has taken several of these trips to Glamis with them and if I thought in any way my daughter was not in safe hands she would have never gone. As alot of people said, kids will be kids, and as parents we try to teach our childern right from wrong and hope that they follow what we have taught them and will make the right choice. As a parent of a teenager we can not have our eye on them 24/7 as if they where still 4 years old. Unfortunetly here the wrong choice was made and it cost the lives of the innocent. Please people, this is not the time for the harsh words and pointing of fingers of who should be held responsable for this accident. And if any of you don't think these parents are not feeling 100% responsable, then you need to put yourself in thier shoes. Our hearts go out to all the families involved! Sami, you will be missed dearly! Rest in peace sweet little angel. "

lisam02 wrote on Nov 20, 2007 1:16 PM:

" I have exhausted my point. Reality says that in the days, months and years to come, each of these parents will suffer an internal grief so severe that they may never recover. Is this punishment enough? Sure, we need to take responsibility for our childrens' actions. Just as I'm sure that you are all patting yourselves on the back, for you would not be in a similar situation because you are without judgement. Come on people! A traumatic ACCIDENT has taken place. So much hypocricy taking place at a time when peace and understanding should be applied. Again, my deepest sympathy goes out to these families "

cinoreah wrote on Nov 20, 2007 11:23 AM:

" As many here have said...."kids will be kids"...and that is exactly the reason why there should have been a parent in that vehicle. Those children would be alive today if there had been. If this Mother was so protective, she would have been there with them. These parents failed their kids. Nothing much more dangerous/deadly than an immature driver mixed with gasoline, except maybe a drunk and gasoline...and there are plenty of those out there too. "

maggie.martin87 wrote on Nov 20, 2007 10:59 AM:

" There was two trains, the kids went around the slower one on one side and thought they were clear, then on the otherside kind of like a passing lane, another faster train came and thats what hit them. Point still being, trains are bigger, and almost always win. "

lisam02 wrote on Nov 20, 2007 10:46 AM:

" I never said "let's not judge", furthermore, who are you and I or any other human being to do so? Would you "jsyi", be so quick to bang on the door of a parent whose child had just killed his or herself screaming IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!! TAKE RESPONSIBILITY!! These are kids! Families have bee torn! Because I am aware of this pain, I was only trying to encourage a little compassion, and rest assured, your words have been heard (J)ust (S)howing (Y)ou (I)gnorance. "

llg wrote on Nov 20, 2007 10:07 AM:

" To amlyam ... use common sense? I was a kid once. I had great parents (very protective), but there were several times I took the family vehicle for a 'joy ride' and they didn't know about it. Hence ... 'kids will be kids'. I don't know the 'particulars', so I can't judge. I was simply offering my unconditional condolences. PS... fix your computer. "

jsyi wrote on Nov 20, 2007 9:03 AM:

" although some of you are saying lets not judge, blah blah blah...since when do we make an exception for one's lack of responsibility due to a tragedy? Sorry but these parents need to pony up and admit they fugged up.. "

jsyi wrote on Nov 20, 2007 9:00 AM:

" Gosh....some of your comments here make me laugh..... Last time I checked every off road toy has some sort of warning sticker stating you must be 16 or older to ride unless under direct supervision of an adult... or something like that....... CLEARLY there was no direct supervision of an adult here as this would not have happened = PARENTS FAULT COMPLETELY. "

lisam02 wrote on Nov 20, 2007 8:57 AM:

" "There is no greater tragedy in this life than the death of a child". I am a parent, and have insight to this horrific case. PLEASE!! All of you heartless finger-pointers.. PLEASE.. step out of your Almighty shoes long enough to realize the effect that your comments are creating. Those closest to these children? The poor parents? Their lives as they knew them are over, and only with time will they find a new direction. I ask that you consider your words carefully, and I pray that none of you who so quickly cast judgement will ever fall victim to the pain that your own stones have placed upon these families. To all of those involved, you have my deepest heartfelt sympathies. "

doreen920 wrote on Nov 20, 2007 7:01 AM:

" I know this family, the mom is very protective and a great mom. For anyone to judge them is horrible. We should all be praying for these families rather than judging. Sami was and always will be a beautiful person. "

justjill68 wrote on Nov 19, 2007 11:50 PM:

" The trains fault, the kids fault, the parents fault, too many crazy people at Glamis's fault, it's all irrelevant. Lives have been lost and lives have changed forever. Parents had to watch there children die. My thoughts and prayers for all who are now suffering from this tragedy. "

gloriadrake wrote on Nov 19, 2007 11:40 PM:

" CAN WE JUST PRAY FOR THE FAMILIES INVOLVED! AND LEAVE JUDGMENT TO GOD! MY HOPES AND PRAYES ARE WITH YOU............. "

homeboy wrote on Nov 19, 2007 7:03 PM:

" The lame railroad people are just as responsible for this tragic accident. What great timing to make a two train pass at a congested highway crossing during peak activity at Glamis. The fast moving train coming the other way should of SLOWED DOWN in respect to the public and the circumstances. I guess when your riding a big train you could care less about highway safety. They just gas it so they can get their time card puched out in time at the end of the day. "

norminchi86 wrote on Nov 19, 2007 4:48 PM:

" My 17 year old daughter knew this girl, who got killed, her name was Sami and our thoughts and prayers go out to her family. "

amlyam wrote on Nov 19, 2007 3:52 PM:

" In response to llg...kids will be kids, but parents SHOULD BE parents. I'm sorry, but use common sense. Geez..."My 15 year old wants to drive this toy where there are thousands of other people on toys...some drunk...some reckless...yes, I think it's a good idea to let them do that." NOT. The 15 year old wasn't even old enough to be behind the wheel of a car by themself. Indeed this is a tragedy and I am sorry for the loss of the children, but I'm even more sorry the parents were negligent. As for the comment pinkinsp made...this is true. Those parents could have more than one lawsuit on their hands for negilience and they are responsible for the 9-year old boy's death and for the other 15 year old's injuries. "

einrejd wrote on Nov 19, 2007 3:24 PM:

" does it matter, the driver was too young and went around the arm that one is supposed to keep you from crossing. Once again, here is another accident that could have been prevented and its someone elses fault. Trains are going too fast and if you here a whistle it is probably too late anyway. Thoughts and Prayers to the families. "

llg wrote on Nov 19, 2007 3:21 PM:

" My heart ached as I read the story. My thoughts and prayers are with the families involved. As all parents know, we try to teach our kids to be safe; but, kids will be kids. My deepest sympathy. "

cinoreah wrote on Nov 19, 2007 2:18 PM:

" I have a question....does anybody know if the train blew its whistle as it approached the crossing? "

cinoreah wrote on Nov 19, 2007 2:12 PM:

" I realize the dunes is a very large area, but parents need to set rules as to just how far a child driving an ATV can venture from camp without their supervision. Most kids are fearless and as somebody said earlier, they think they're invincible and caution flies out the window, as evidenced by this latest tragedy. Had these kids been accompanied by a parent, this accident likely would not have happened. Unfortunately, parents take their kids to Glamis and turn them loose. "

martinez2k wrote on Nov 19, 2007 2:08 PM:

" I guess they were never taught to "Look right, look left and look right again"? Don't drive around lowered RR Xing arms, period. "

Mr_Freeze_187 wrote on Nov 19, 2007 1:55 PM:

" iF U GUYS SAW WHAT THESE KiDS LooKED LiKE WHEN THEY WERE GETTiNG PULLED OUT oF THiS RHiNO U WoULD BE GiViNG FULL SUPPoRT To THE PARENTS THE PARENT WERE RiGHT THERE WHEN THiS HAPPEND i SAW WHEN THEY WERE PULLiNG THE DRiVER OUT AND WHEN SHE HAD PASSED SHE WAZ LooKiNG STRAiGHT AT ME !!! Soo i JUST WANTED Too TELL THE PARENTS oF THESE KiDS iM Soo SoRY FoR UR LoSS !! "

pinkinsp wrote on Nov 19, 2007 1:31 PM:

" Those parents had better be happy they are not from Kern County because the aggressive district attorney there will prosecute the parents. There was a woman from Bakersfield who was rushing her daughter who was having an asthma attack to the hospital, had an accident and the granddaughter was not in a car seat and was killed. The district attorney's office decided to prosecute the grandmother regardless of the child's death. That being said, you need to watch what you do and where you do it. "

ricocafe99 wrote on Nov 19, 2007 1:17 PM:

" I agree with Pinomatus' point that parents make the vehicle purchase not the children. "

cmwalker1030 wrote on Nov 19, 2007 12:06 PM:

" The parents of these families need support not bashing during such a horrible time. These are great parents who loved their children very much. Never would a parent intentionally put their children in harms way. The families of these children will re-live this for the rest of their lives. They need prayers, not the negative comments! Their lives have been turned upside down in a matter of moments. If you only knew how these families are suffering! "

vllyrat wrote on Nov 19, 2007 11:41 AM:

" Very sad story. Both my sons 4 & 7 years old ride quads, but my husband & I keep a close eye on them. We tend to avoid the Glamis area not only because of the noisy train that passes all day & all night long but to avoid all the craziness out there. There's lots of teenagers that go out there on their own. You don't have to be a genius to know that teengagers will be "teenagers" & many will you poor judgement..like crossing the railroad xing arms. It's up to the parents to enforce rules...some will obey...many will not- You see BLM's patroling all desert areas but some people chose to view them as an enemy...there's still people out there double riding, drunk driving...not wearing helmets etc...The desert is very BIG...grab a spot & have fun..you don't have to be part of the big melting pot in the Glamis area. "

maggie.martin87 wrote on Nov 19, 2007 10:30 AM:

" Has anyone else noticed that almost all of the deaths of children that occur out in the desert are children that are doing something they shouldn't? Riding two to a quad, leaving when your told not to, not telling anyone where they're going? These people need to realize how dangerous it is out there and keep a better eye on their children. "

cinoreah wrote on Nov 19, 2007 10:15 AM:

" And to add further...pinomatus is right. The parents ARE responsible and liable as they buy these toys. I'm sure there is some second guessing today about their decision to allow their child to drive that vehicle. All parents should rethink their decision about allowing their kids to drive out there. It is NOT safe for them to do so. "

cinoreah wrote on Nov 19, 2007 10:09 AM:

" We used to go to the dunes regularly many years ago, but we quit when the easy riding bugs and out of town people started showing up. They flew around the dunes like they were on a racetrack, as they are doing today. My son and his family go out past Glamis into the more desert area where there are few if any people. They have a Polaris and quads, but they don't go near the dunes because of the crazies there. My almost 6 y/o grandson has a quad but he's only allowed to ride around camp. There are way too many young kids riding the open dunes with all those other nuts and it makes no sense to me. When I see a trailer go by with a tiny little quad on it I cringe to think of a child that small riding out there. I have a feeling something might be coming down the pike about an age limit to drive a vehicle in the dunes. Many adults have no safety sense and kids certainly don't. They don't need to be driving. I would never allow a child to drive the open dunes. "

pinomatus wrote on Nov 19, 2007 9:47 AM:

" kids don't buy those types of toys, parents do. "

sandgawdsrose wrote on Nov 19, 2007 9:05 AM:

" If you weren't there and don't know the facts, please don't make comments such as the ones I've just read. It's easy to say people are stupid and parents should be held liable 100%. It was a horrible and tragic mistake. We should be praying for the families involved instead of the name calling or pointing the finger at anyone. We have to remember that these were kids. Kids make mistakes no matter where they are. My prayers go out to the families. R.I.P. little ones!!!! "

ricocafe99 wrote on Nov 19, 2007 8:55 AM:

" What a horrible senseless tragedy! How can anyone make such an awful mistake??? As a parent I am mortified, As a former offroader I cant believe someone could be so stupid! "

Hey_Bulldog wrote on Nov 19, 2007 8:23 AM:

" Young people seem to think they're invinceable. Live and learn - or die. "

cinoreah wrote on Nov 19, 2007 6:11 AM:

" There seems to be some conflicting information as a friend who works for the state was one of the first responders and he said he did CPR on a 9 y/o girl, but she was already dead. According to him, the two teens were flown out. At any rate, those RR Xing arms are there for a reason and that vehicle should never have been on the highway in the first place. The parents should have warned them against driving on the roadway, but adults and kids alike do it all the time. Far too many who go to the dunes are totally irresponsible when it comes to safety and common sense. There needs to be some kind of enforcement out there putting a stop to this senseless behavior. A few impounded vehicles might be a good place to start to get the message out to stay off the highway. They are a danger to themselves and the driving public as well. "

jsyi wrote on Nov 19, 2007 12:35 AM:

" The parents of this teen should be held 100% liable for this!!! "

gmj1950 wrote on Nov 18, 2007 11:51 PM:

" Don't drive around Railroad X'ings gates while they are down ... those trains move through Glamis at about 70 mph ... no contest! Many years ago, in Long Beach, a friends brother tried to beat a train at Carson and Cherry Ave ... again no contest ... He was in a body cast for nearly a year! He survived! "

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