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Dunes visitors not looking forward to taking out trash


Monday, January 5, 2009 12:12 AM PST

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Jason Kartchner of Downey hands a shovel to his sons Anthony, 16, and Trevor, 10, as the family collects their garbage Sunday near Glamis before returning home.
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An Allied Waste garbage truck empties Dumpsters on Gecko Road near Glamis on Sunday. Trash pickup service ends Feb. 1.
GLAMIS — Simi Valley resident Keith Northcott said he enjoys the desert here but worries what could happen to it once trash collection ends Feb. 1.

The U.S. Department of Interior’s Bureau of Land Management is advising visitors, who number in the tens of thousands in the winter months, to pack up their trash and take it home instead of leaving it in the desert or dropping it off at a nearby business.

Northcott’s fellow off-road enthusiast Keith Johnson, also of Simi Valley, feels the same way, and he said the trash people pack in the back of their vehicles could easily fall onto roadways.

As if to confirm the two Ventura County residents’ concerns Sunday, crushed beer cans, empty water bottles, discarded rugs and other items were found on or near the sand dunes, with no Dumpsters nearby.

While the notion of taking their trash home would not dissuade them from coming back, both men doubt that many will do the right thing.

“It’s going to be a problem,” Northcott predicts. “It’s going to be a mess.”

Some revelers expressed their reservations about the prospects for a brighter future in the Imperial Sand Dunes Recreation Area now that trash removal service is coming to an end. Others say that won’t stop them from coming back.

“Oh, heck no,” said Bill Sippel of Diamond Bar when asked if he would be discouraged from coming to the dunes because of the trash situation.

But Sippel pointed out the signs of noncompliance are beginning to show as some people have left some of their trash behind.

“I don’t like trash,” Sippel said. “I like (the desert) clean.”

Mike Boxx, a BLM chief ranger, said fiscal constraints brought about the pending closure of the Dumpster site used by visitors.

“We just don’t have the budget for it,” said Boxx, who cited declining funding as the impetus behind doing away with trash service.

“Something’s got to give.”

The BLM plans to inform the public about helping keep the recreation area clean. Boxx pointed out the BLM has its 12th annual trash clean-up event on Feb. 17, the Tuesday after the Presidents Day holiday weekend.

In spite of the budgetary shortfall facing the BLM, est Covina residents Carlos Reinoso and his wife, Maria, questioned where visitors will take their refuse now.

“Where in the heck are they going to take their trash?” Reinoso wondered aloud.

“(The trash) is going to sit on the sand.”

>> Staff Writer Silvio J. Panta can be reached at 337-3442 or at spanta@ivpressonline.com


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Comments:

lioneliz wrote on Jan 7, 2009 8:11 AM:

" Hey, the can comes with the coke, so it's also yours to take home. "

chargers1 wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:15 PM:

" BLM, I'm sure businesses would not appreciate their dumpsters being used as dump sites. It's too expensive and they would fill up quick. Also, the fees that are charged out there are ridiculous. How no one complains is beyond me. Also, people should be able to pull off to the side and observe the area without having to pay any fees. "

burn33 wrote on Jan 6, 2009 6:33 PM:

" The fees we have been paying are far more than are forced upon any other user of our nations outdoors. We also use a portion of the land that is unattractive to other users, unlike the fight between snowmobiler's and hikers in Yellowstone, the only users of the dunes are offroaders. The only hikers or non-offroading campers are the eco-nazi's that do their annual flag waving charade. Despite this, we are treated with ever decreasing services, and increased pressure's from irate Law enforcement. I was actually happy when I first paid the yearly ISDRA fee, and saw a marked increase in dumpsters, and restrooms. I was really happy when I saw the increased amount of EMS vehicles and personnel.
But then I saw every law enforcement entity involved receiving $80,000 sandrails that they use ineffectively and abusively, the EMS slack off, and now the trash service removed. My OHV registration went up, my yearly is the same, and services are disappearing, if the BLM and the state treated hikers in Yosemite this way there would be a polotical outcry in Sacramento you could hear all the way down here. A little fair treatment would be nice. "

alvo wrote on Jan 6, 2009 7:48 AM:

" Fees? So what do these existing fees cover...extra police, medics and the coroner? If services are being curtailed, fees should be lowered. It's too bad people that some of the visitors of the dunes are so crude. When we bacpack the sierras, there is rarely a speck of trash...must be a different mentality among the different wilderness users. "

zoomlenz4u wrote on Jan 6, 2009 12:24 AM:

" Bet the Sherrif from Maricopa County would love to clean up the dunes with inmate labor. To bad he is in Arizona. "

noozeyeguy wrote on Jan 5, 2009 10:07 PM:

" masterofdisaster wrote on Jan 5, 2009 6:36 PM:
" Not only should people pick up their garbage they should also pay a hefty fee to use the land. Hopefully that will deter people from off roading "

"Deter" people from off-roading? You are aware it's legal, right?

FYI: The ISDRA (Glamis) has been charging fees for some time now. $25/week, $90/year, in addition to the registration fees we pay the State for our OHVs (which just doubled in the past year)... yet we are constantly seeing our legal and established recreation areas closed and services reduced or eliminated.

If this were happening in any other sector of government there would be a huge outcry. But we in the offroad community will sigh, pick up our trash, pay our ever-increasing fees, and continue to do what we love to do... recreate with friends and family in the desert we love. "

ballesteros wrote on Jan 5, 2009 8:01 PM:

" Fees are already paid!!!!! Offroad stickers and camping fees. When you go to a campground anywhere else, you have to pay fees there too and they have dumpsters. The problems is that the GREAT STATE of California is mismanaging the fees and now they're cutting back on the services. "

masterofdisaster wrote on Jan 5, 2009 6:36 PM:

" Not only should people pick up their garbage they should also pay a hefty fee to use the land. Hopefully that will deter people from off roading "

shiryu0 wrote on Jan 5, 2009 3:09 PM:

" oh come on i think the BLM can put a small fee to dune goers to pick up the trash. After all "Off-road racing is inexpensive family fun" right? "

marygb wrote on Jan 5, 2009 2:55 PM:

" In the Coachella Valley, there are months of the year when thousands upon thousands of Palm Trees are trimmed. I am talking TRUCK..LOADS!!
Someone should intercept these palm frawns by the truck loads and make palapas. They can be shipped across the border, for shade and more palapas. Las Casuelas Restaurant downtown Palm Springs facing Palm Canyon has a huge Palapa in front of the restaurant. Its a beauty! But, sadly the majority of the palm frawns are taking to be destroyed, shredded and turned into mulch. Its a good thing, but why not put them to a creative, shady use? Most gardening services would be happy to get them out of their hands. Country Clubs have hundreds of Palm Trees that require trimming every year. One property in the Las Palmas area of Palm Springs has nearly 200 palm trees alone..$$$$ "

marygb wrote on Jan 5, 2009 2:49 PM:

" This is a perfect opportunity for a creative, hardworking individual to start a business. Find out what the dumping fees are/cost/times/requirements. If you have a big truck or a friend you can partner up with and charge these people that have little or no interest in hauling their trash back. Charge a minimal fee. That many people..$$$ will add up quickly! IV Press profiled a guy recently that cleans out toilets. Tough job, but someone has to do it. Much of the trash will need to be recycled, creating more $$$ for the business. At the same time you will be providing a great cause by: KEEPING AMERICA CLEAN!! "

rrcsilver wrote on Jan 5, 2009 1:46 PM:

" "indigo" There is a charge fee already to use the area. Didn't you know that or were you just talking out loud. Please get your info. before making comments! "

delislim wrote on Jan 5, 2009 1:44 PM:

" I think if it becomes a problem of trash being left out there in the dunes, then the BLM will have one more reason for their fight to close the dunes. If you pack it in, then please pack it out. I don't use the dunes during this time of year because there are a lot of people drinking and causing problems, but I see the need for the dunes to remain open for the local businesses. There is a need for people to be able to go and enjoy the desert, but I would not want to sit in the imperial County dump and call that family fun. Respect Mother Earth and the bounty it gives us all. "

nicklas25@yahoo.com wrote on Jan 5, 2009 1:39 PM:

" GEE I WONDER WHERE THE STOLEN USE FEE MONEY WENT,HMMMM....
MAYBE IN SOMEONES POCKET,ALLIED TRASH SAID THEY DID NOT RAISE THE PRICE BUT THAT BLM STOLE THE MONEY ELSE WHERE. BYE BYE DUNES AND THE MONEY WE BRING. :( "

indigo wrote on Jan 5, 2009 11:39 AM:

" Charge 'em. If people can't clean up after themselves, then charge them to use the area. Use the fees to hire workers to clean up. "

arrowhead wrote on Jan 5, 2009 9:29 AM:

" People will bag up their trash and drop it off in El Centro on their way back to L.A. Budget smudget. Take a look at government waste in all areas - don't tell me they don't have the money for trash pickup. "

holtville1 wrote on Jan 5, 2009 12:57 AM:

" I think the shovel shown in the first photo provides the answer as to where a lot of the trash is going to be going. "


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